On this episode of the show, I catch up with Jeff and Heidi Veal, two influential leaders from Texas.  We compare and contrast each of their roles and they talk about the dynamics of being a married couple of edleaders.  They also talk about how they engage the community and help build a culture of innovation at their schools.




Jeff and Heidi are just another example of guests that I've had on this show that not only add amazing content to the podcast but are simply great people and I'm honored to have talked with them.  Here are resources from the show and ways you can connect with them:

Jeff and Heidi's Blog:

Jeff and Nathan Lang's Website:

Jeff on Twitter: @heffrey

Heidi on Twitter: @VealHeidi

#leadupchat: Saturdays at 8:30 AM CT

#ecechat: Tuesdays at 8:30 PM CT


In this episode of the show I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Aman Yadav, Professor of Educational Psychology and Educational Technology at Michigan State University. We talk about the movement for more computer science in schools. Dr. Yadav helps clarify that we need to embed computation thinking, not just coding, in the classroom. I also have a big a-ha moment regarding administrative ed programs, a particular passion of mine.  You can connect with Dr. Yadav at or on Twitter @yadavaman.


In this episode of the show, I have the pleasure of speaking with the most fun name in education, Daisy Dyer Duerr, or as I would address her if it was normal, D Cubed.   Daisy was named the 2014 Digital Principal of the Year by the NASSP and has also been nominated for several Bammy awards. Daisy and I talk about her education background, what she’ll be presenting about at Model Schools this next week, what she would do differently if she could start over as an administrator, and rural education. She’ll be coming out with a new book this fall with another eduhero of mine, Mr. Derek McCoy, who I interviewed way back in Episodes 5 and 6 when I was just starting out podcasting.

I had the privilege of meeting Bobby at EdCamp Leadership in Columbus, Ohio.  He helps provide some insight to the joys and challenges of leading a large high school.  

Are you interested in outside-the-box scheduling for your high school?  Then you need to check out this episode and the awesome things happening at this school in Alabama!